After presenting on a panel at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Ray Dalio joined the team at CNBC this morning. In his interview, he shared where things stand in the global economy right now, and how investors can act.
Ray Dalio is the head of Bridgewater Associates, the world's largest hedge fund with more than $150 billion AUM.
He's known for his deep understanding of market cycles. In 2013, Dalio released a very interesting video how the world's economic and money machine works. It's a machine in which the use of either credit or money and the generation of debt creates different market cycles — recessions, depressions, boom years etc.
So here's today's engineering lesson — some of which he talked about on his panel — it's about the United States, Southern Europe, China and you (the investor).
Ray Dalio said that the US right now is in the middle of a post-recession short term debt cycle where assets will return about 4%. He calls this, "the boring years," and compared it to the economy in 2004 or 2006. We won't boom, we won't bust.
Southern Europe, on the other hand, is still struggling out of a nasty debt bubble — with debt rising faster than income — but unlike the United States, the region couldn't print money to inflate itself out of trouble. No one would fund Southern Europe's debt.
But still, that debt must be rolled over. To do that, Southern Europe's economy will remain depressed for quite a while — a very different position in the cycle from the U.S.
Then there's China, which Dalio said is going through a much-needed tightening of monetary policy. The country's break-neck growth speed is slowing. China’s Q4 GDP number came in at 7.7%. That's a slowdown from the same quarter the year before when the number came in at 7.8%. Economists expect full year growth to come in at its lowest number since 1990 at 7.4%.
China's President, X Jinping, expected this slowing. In fact, instead of slowing, it's more of an attempt at normalization.
The problem is that getting things to normal will be bumpy, if it's achievable at all. As China tries to find balance in its economy the tightening can get too tight — as in, there isn't enough money floating around the economy to keep money flowing freely. Consumers can't do it with their purchasing power alone.
That's when the government steps in and injects money into the system again. It's a tough place to be in because the government doesn't want the economy to freeze, and Dalio believes it's a bubble.
We've already seen that happen this week. On Tuesday the Chinese government injected some cash into the banking system ahead of the Lunar New Year. It's a time of year when businesses pay a lot of Chinese migrant workers their yearly wages, people buy presents for each etc. The entire country needs cash.
While doing this, the government also announced that smaller loans would be written off bank balance sheets. That's not tightening, but it is the country trying to find a balance between keeping money flowing through its economy and not drowning in cheap money as it tries to mature.
And "balance" leads us to what Dalio talked about next — how to build a solid portfolio in our interconnected world. How do you invest in this environment?
China's tightening, the U.S. is growing slowly, Southern Europe's depressed — we're in a world where people want to buy financial assets. It's a hunt for returns. There's a lot of demand for cash.
At the same time, Dalio pointed out, longer term debt and liabilities are eating money.
"If I could say one thing to your investors, it's try to achieve balance," he said.
As an investor you need to diversify your portfolio and understand that in the type of world we're living in, your returns are going to look like this: 1% on cash, 3% on bonds, 4% on equities.
It's a low yield world, and you should plan accordingly.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ray-dalio-davos-cnbc-2014-1#ixzz2rbAVJudW
Ray Dalio is an American businessman and founder of Bridgewater Associates. Bridgewater Associates has since attracted many clients including pension funds and is currently (as of January 2012) the largest hedge fund in the world with nearly $120 billion under management.
January 28, 2014
January 27, 2014
Ray Dalio of Bridgewater Associates talks about Deflation, Chronic Depressions and Printing Money at Davos 2014
Published on Jan 24, 2014 Davos 2014 | Ray Dalio Explains Where in the Economic Machine We Currently Are – CNBC Interview
Ray Dalio is an American businessman and founder of Bridgewater Associates. Bridgewater Associates has since attracted many clients including pension funds and is currently (as of January 2012) the largest hedge fund in the world with nearly $120 billion under management.
September 25, 2013
Ray Dalio believes that Japan needs another "big round" of stimulus
Hedge fund legend Ray Dalio stated on Friday 20 of September 2013, that the Japanese economy will need another huge round of stimulus to boost sluggish growth, and some emerging markets are headed for a crisis.
Ray Dalio, chairman and CIO of $150+ billion firm Bridgewater Associates, one of the world's largest hedge funds, was speaking at the Japan Society in midtown Manhattan.
"The effects are going to wear off," Dalio said, about prior stimulus measures. BOJ is "going to have to do another big round of purchases," he shared.
In a 30 minutes conversation, Ray Dalio addressed important issues in economies like China and France. He were an optimist about investing in emerging markets, especially in equities, which dropped like a rock this year. According to him emerging markets will not be an "an attractive place" to invest this year "given flows and pricing."
He said emerging markets face "a major balance of payments problem" that will eventually lead to significant problems. It seems that Kyle Bass and other great hedge fund managers share the same view, as some of them expect either India or some other country to go into a crisis mode.
“We are going to have the emerging market crisis," Ray Dalio said during a Q&A period.
India should "prepare for the worst" since it has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of foreign capital flows that are already bypassing emerging market equities, he said.
As for Europe, Dalio said that France is of particular concern to him since "it has not dealt properly with debt to income ratios rising."
Update: There is information that Ray Dalio and Bridgewater Associates went long treasuries yesterday, and even though we don’t know whether its short-term or medium-term trade, it’s worth taking notice as some other prominent managers like Marc Faber also like treasuries short-term and believe they are due for a rebound.
Ray Dalio is an American businessman and founder of Bridgewater Associates. Bridgewater Associates has since attracted many clients including pension funds and is currently (as of January 2012) the largest hedge fund in the world with nearly $120 billion under management.
Ray Dalio, chairman and CIO of $150+ billion firm Bridgewater Associates, one of the world's largest hedge funds, was speaking at the Japan Society in midtown Manhattan.
"The effects are going to wear off," Dalio said, about prior stimulus measures. BOJ is "going to have to do another big round of purchases," he shared.
In a 30 minutes conversation, Ray Dalio addressed important issues in economies like China and France. He were an optimist about investing in emerging markets, especially in equities, which dropped like a rock this year. According to him emerging markets will not be an "an attractive place" to invest this year "given flows and pricing."
He said emerging markets face "a major balance of payments problem" that will eventually lead to significant problems. It seems that Kyle Bass and other great hedge fund managers share the same view, as some of them expect either India or some other country to go into a crisis mode.
“We are going to have the emerging market crisis," Ray Dalio said during a Q&A period.
India should "prepare for the worst" since it has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of foreign capital flows that are already bypassing emerging market equities, he said.
As for Europe, Dalio said that France is of particular concern to him since "it has not dealt properly with debt to income ratios rising."
Update: There is information that Ray Dalio and Bridgewater Associates went long treasuries yesterday, and even though we don’t know whether its short-term or medium-term trade, it’s worth taking notice as some other prominent managers like Marc Faber also like treasuries short-term and believe they are due for a rebound.
Ray Dalio is an American businessman and founder of Bridgewater Associates. Bridgewater Associates has since attracted many clients including pension funds and is currently (as of January 2012) the largest hedge fund in the world with nearly $120 billion under management.
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